A few days ago @happyme wrote an interesing article: **[A Possible Cure For Steem?](https://steemit.com/steemit/@happyme/a-possible-cure-for-steem#@nnnarvaez/re-happyme-re-nnnarvaez-re-happyme-re-nnnarvaez-re-happyme-a-possible-cure-for-steem-20170920t075026156z)**

Where he addresses a concern many minnows have about the fairness of payouts in #steemit and the discouragement the current system might create in new comers.

He used very interesting analogies and this opened a very and interesting discussions about growing the network while encouraging organically other's participation. 

Even thou i don't fully agree with his proposal, (mainly because is skewed by the bitcoin price and behavior analogy), that very post has in the replies a very good example of the real issue we should be trying to address.


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> source image Google: [money / Boing Boing](https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/o-PILES-OF-AMERICAN-MONEY-facebook.jpg)

#### Let me explain: 

Thou many people replied to him and opened the discussion and he took the time and effort to reply and is open to new ideas, most of those comments went ignored by up-voters, but for the conversation with @lexiconical (where he points out the flaw of his comparison with BTC) and while i agree with him in that.  The discussion derives then, to inflation gold BTC behavior, and **stops discussing how to make STEEMit fairer and better** for the newcomers and simply defends the status quo of a society where the rich get richer.

>  **Note from self:** I have nothing against the richer getting richer, but also find it is important for the richer to leave part of the market to new comers so everyone can be richer)

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### Back to the point: 

@happyme post returned to him in up-votes 4.83$ (less curation fees)
The discussion with everyone else had a payout in the cents range.

The discussion with @lexiconical (which thou interesting went off-topic) had a pay out of:

##### $8.80 for @happyme and $39.18 for @lexiconical

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>![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmcHWydkyNkzjU2TsnYBZm1CyqUxgmSUcjmYyWPYBKYVQY/image.png)
I stopped the addition exercise  in this one.
and also realized they go back on topic but since is hidden it is proof that the indentation harms the discussion. 
`**Proposal for better User experience:** Inspire on facebook only one  nesting level of indentation`
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And as i explain in this comment:  [If we want to encourage discussion instead of posting we need to provide an incentive for doing so.](https://steemit.com/steemit/@happyme/a-possible-cure-for-steem#@nnnarvaez/re-happyme-re-nnnarvaez-re-happyme-re-nnnarvaez-re-happyme-re-nnnarvaez-re-happyme-a-possible-cure-for-steem-20170921t095202951z)

> **Resumed would be:** What we are missing is the incentive and help from the powerful to maintain this long discussions and be encouraged to spend the time needed to help shape not only steemit but change today's society's paradigm about wealth growth.
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### The experiment i wanted to do is to put my comment in a post.
`Because i think there is an interesting proposal and want to give it more visibility and the reply system with the indenting is making very difficult to achieve that` 

So i want to invite you, to read my idea and tell me how can i make it better, so find below my last reply in there.

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### I think a real solution is hidden in: the SP that is delegated to you by the system.

When you are minnow you tend to be very careful with your little votes and for example discussions like the one on this post ***(not only the post itself but the comments and replies contain a huge amount of rich and interesting information)***. 


## If we want to encourage discussion instead of posting we need to provide an incentive for doing so. 

Very few people votes comments to keep their VP .

Now imagine that:

* the SP delegated to you by the system to give you some voting power increases as your reputation increases *(just until you have enough Steem or VP of your own)*.

* your VP when voting in rich and long comments that encourage the discussion doesn't drains as much.


##### This would make more minnows interested in investing the time in commenting and voting comments. 

Now of we add a machine algorithm to evaluate a rich discussion.

> Today is possible to make this automatically with the API 

`Word count + long word count replies`
(Like this post and all its comments for example) 


`long good post, and attracts a lot of long good replies `
Lots of minnows votes in that discussion


Then scan the contents of the comments to identify  copy/paste attempts to game the system.

We obtain a list of posts containing many long comments with lots of author's and other user's replies. 

**That must mean a quality discussion is going on**

> The subject of the discussion and value of interventions are subjective, because what might be brilliant to me might be uninteresting to others.


**Finally one of those Whale-bots up-votes these kind of comments with a heavy pay out to encourage people to have rich discussions.**
> There are quite a few of the whales that are trying to help
 
And the list of posts is written in a report that anyone can read and check and possible denounce (using a reply) if an abuse to ***"game the system"*** is going on.
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### This addresses many issues: 
* Incentive to vote on replies and to actually spend time writing good replies. 
* Empowerment of the masses to encourage active participation.

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#### I am not complaining, but see [this post](https://steemit.com/steemit/@happyme/a-possible-cure-for-steem), it returned about  4.83$ to you.

Just your exchange with @lexiconical returned to you: 8.80$ (double than your post) 

But to him the payout was: 39.18$

I even thou i find he points some holes in your original argument i don't think the répartition of the return is fair, but he got "better" up-votes because what he said attracted the money.

You put as much effort to originally write this post *from what is your reality and explained your point of view*. Then you took the time and replied to him and to many of us. 

A **Whale willing to do good** might be interested in helping you and encourage you to keep the effort to open discussions and find solutions to the system together.  

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Another example: I'm sure that this same reply i have spent 30 minutes writing,  if it was a post and not a comment would get much better return that what will get here. 
(I'm going to make the experiment) 

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I have a series of posts where i explain how i want to appeal to the greedy human nature to actually encourage human exchanges (sadly they are in spanish).

I get to put myself to the task to translate them but time is not my friend at the moment.

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PS: by reading your reply to @leotrap (who i respect and enjoy discussing with) Made me realize a mistake many of us make:

We spend our time chatting in **Discord** about what to do in #steem, when the principle of the system should be to spend our time here in #steemit replying to each other and enriching the conversation in here where :
a) Is public and many benefit from our exchanges.

b) There is the possibility of being retributed in good old dollars :)

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I can make the nuts and bolts for evaluating and making a **GoodBOT** that spiders steemit in search for quality discussions, but to make change happen it would need either to be backed by **all the minnows votes** or **by a few whale/tunas/ dolphins** to actually make a difference.

I also found this interesting article:  [Ask not what STEEM can do for you! ](https://steemit.com/steemit/@deimus/ask-not-what-steem-can-do-for-you-ask-what-you-can-do-for-steem)

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